When is a stout, not a stout?

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This week we are at a local brewery, Noble Roots Brewing. A fairly new brewery that focuses on smaller, one off batches. Lots of variety here.

Ok the first beer that I’m going with is thier “boils down to this” American stout with maple syrup.

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Before I even order this beer I remind myself that it is usually a given that when you mention maple syrup it’s going to have zero maple flavor or taste.
And this is exactly what happens here.

Maple syrup is pretty tough to keep any trace of it in beer, especially pure maple syrup.
(But to be completely fair, I did hear one person who had this on release day who remembers it having maple aroma)

But I’m not going to ding it for not having those flavors/aromas because like I said.. it’s perfectly normal for them not too. That said.. by alluding to it, some essence or extract to give it a nudge would have been have been acceptable here.

But on to the beer its self. They have to call it something. They went with American stout.

American stout. A very roasty, (pronounced..Very Roasty) fullish bodied, bitter stout featuring American hops.

None of that is here. Nope.
Very little roast. Very little bittering,, if any. Just the smidgenest of hop flavor. All in the lightest bodied beer I’ve had in a while.

However. What ever this beer is named, or however badly miscategorized this beer is.. it is delicious.

The light and delicate roasts and hopping was either an obvious attempt to let the maple come thru, or a genuine lucky miscalculation that widely missed but stayed drinkable.

Now I did say that I talked to one person who said it had some maple character when it was tapped. But sadly I did not get any info as to the rest of the beers characteristics.

At my time of tasting, everything of maple had faded completely and left behind a beer that is very thin and very weak in all flavors.
Those weak flavors do let a minerally tasting aspect thru that I would indeed suspect came from that maple syrup. Because to me it has a light maple sap taste. (Maple sap has zero maple flavor. Tastes more like you soaked maple leaves in water)

I could not get a word from either of the Brewers but how this beer sit right now seem very much like a beer that someone who has used maple syrup for the first time.

I’m just gonna make an educated guess here, and you can ask anyone who has used a larger sized quantity of maple syrup the first time…
but I suspect they got hold of this syrup, took a stout recipe they had, and just scaled the recipe back to compensate for the sugar content.
Doing this would account for the much lower roast, and much lower hopping. Plus the syrup ferments nearly out and with a reduced grain bill, would leave a very thin beer with virtually no maple flavor.

Ok..how to give this a score.
As the Maple American Stout they call it.. it gets a 0/5. There is absolutely nothing Stouty nor Mapley about this beer at all. Not much else can be said about that.

But,, as far as how I like it,, it’s ok. Kinda like a very very light bodied, light everything version of a dark mild??? Maybe a reflection of a light light porter?
It’s not a bad beer at all.. just not whats advertised. But I do kinda like it.. so my Untappd score is going to be a 2.5/5

But make no mistake. If I had bought this in the store because of that description, I would NOT be happy about it.

Black Ale.. um what?

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Escanaba Black Beer from Upper Hand is not quite a stout, but had to put up some info about it just to maybe ease my mind. But let’s dive in any way. Keep in mind this will be longer than normal, as you will see why.

These are canned beers. Which I like. We all know the benefiet of packing cans for road trips.

Opening the first can I was greeted with no hiss or normal opening sound you would get from a can. But it did pour decent enough. Ended up with a very thin light tan head that did not stick around very long at all. A few seconds at most. Still no signs of life. No carbonation bubbles, no cascading show. Just a very dark brown mass.

(I would have thought if you put black ale in the name, the beer would be black)

In the aroma though there is some nice roast coming thru, and a bit of the dank hop. I think I was expecting the opposite. More hop less roast, but it does work. Some grainy notes along with some sweet sugary notes finish it out. So far so good I’m thinking.

Here is where I’m looking for easing my mind on this beer. The taste. What in the hell happened? I can only describe it as an old minnow bucket. I mean it was really bad. There is no way a pro brewer would (or should) let this out into the wild.

But.. in this cans favor,, there was quite a bit of that dank hop action and roast notes to play against the minnows. But also as I expected,, it was nearly dead flat.

I thought to my self that this must be a single can issue because..damn. But couldn’t force my self to try another right away.

The next day I had enough guts to try again. This time we got a nice pour with that tannish head that stuck around this time. Not a thick creamy head.. but decent.

Same roasty danky grainy aromas as the first can, but very much livelier looking. But as we get to tasting, still get a twang of that minnow.

Now is that stuck in my head from the first? I dont think so as it started getting more pronounced as it wamed up. But again hoppy and roasty.. but almost a chocolate thing. Almost. Like that plastic taste you get if you were to mix a pack of hot chocolate with 4x the amount of water.

While yes I would say this is better than the first can,, I still would not call it good.

Day 3. So I opened another can of this today.

From past experience I figured I would not waste a glass on this, and just drink from the can.

Opens with decent carbonation and smells the same as the other three. Same minnow taste. But everything else about it seems like a different beer. Its thin.. its sweeter. Like a faint sugary koolaid (Sweeter is getting further away from what most would call a black ale.) The hops taste far less than the last 2. Could this be from not opening up from a pour? I dunno.

So what I’m left with is 1- 6 pack. 3 beers drank. 3 completely different beers. That is some poor quality control. I think the best out of the 3 was the second one I had,, but thats not saying a whole lot.

Would I call this a Black Ale? Maybe the second one. Would I call this a stout? No. Porter? You could convince me that the 3rd one was porterish I guess.

I’m not sure this is happening with this companies other beers or even other 6 packs of this brand… but I am pretty sure I will be skipping over these guys from now on.

Due to a generally bad taste and crazy bad consistancy I really have no choice but to give the lowest score I can for this beer.

If you have tried this beer and have a better review of it please let me know as I want to believe this was just a one off problem 6er. (I have not yet tried the other 3 cans. I will be bringing these to our next beer meeting to get a grip on what’s going on with them)

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