Mayan Mocha

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Stopped down at my favorite craft beer joint,,Ned Kelly’s Pub to see if they got any new stouts since the lockdowns. And the first one I seen was this Mayan Mocha Stout.

Poured In a small snifter from the tap it looks dark dark brown with a darker than usual tan head, that is fairly thick. Which seems odd for a mocha stout.

Definite mocha in the nose. Along with some… Peanut butter? Or something very nutty.

Hmm.  Something.. spicy in there. Like habanero spicy.  I guess I shoulda known by the Mayan thing.
Ya. Baby. All kinds of things going on. Nutmeg burn. Something like sour cherries. That subtle pepper burn. All letting the stouts roast peek through.

The body is a bit more than thin, but not thick. But the carbonation is fairly high so it does feel thinner

Woooboy this beer was a surprise.. and a good one. 

Take yer 5 points!

A Karben 4 Oatmeal Stout

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I picked up a bottle of this to head down to our weekly Wednesday tastings. Mostly because of the name.

Karben 4 Diet Starts Tomorrow Oatmeal Stout.

Karben 4 usually has pretty good beers, and sure this will be another. So let’s get to it.

This pours black with a very thin head. But that thin head does fit if there is a decent amount oatmeal used. That oil from the oats kinda knocks it down.

And wow does this smell like oatmeal! And almost as upfront is Coco. Man, this smells fantastic. A bit of black malt sneaks in there too.

And the tastes are nearly exactly what is in the nose. Coco, light bits of black malt, the oatmeal is a bit subdued in the taste, but with it still blasting from the aroma,, it’s enough.

Not overly sweet or bitter, but I would say it leans more to the sweet side because there is no real hop presence in bittering or taste.

I do find it odd that the body is quite thin for as much oatmeal as it seems there is.. however that could be due to the higher than “normal” carbonation. It’s high enough to feel it prickle your tongue. Or,, possibly, did they use powdered Coco?? That sometimes plays weird things with body.

All in all, this is a fantastic beer. Definitely worth a try just for the aromas if nothing else. I certainly would buy this one again.

I’m going to have to give this a very solid.. 4.25/5

When is a stout, not a stout?

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This week we are at a local brewery, Noble Roots Brewing. A fairly new brewery that focuses on smaller, one off batches. Lots of variety here.

Ok the first beer that I’m going with is thier “boils down to this” American stout with maple syrup.

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Before I even order this beer I remind myself that it is usually a given that when you mention maple syrup it’s going to have zero maple flavor or taste.
And this is exactly what happens here.

Maple syrup is pretty tough to keep any trace of it in beer, especially pure maple syrup.
(But to be completely fair, I did hear one person who had this on release day who remembers it having maple aroma)

But I’m not going to ding it for not having those flavors/aromas because like I said.. it’s perfectly normal for them not too. That said.. by alluding to it, some essence or extract to give it a nudge would have been have been acceptable here.

But on to the beer its self. They have to call it something. They went with American stout.

American stout. A very roasty, (pronounced..Very Roasty) fullish bodied, bitter stout featuring American hops.

None of that is here. Nope.
Very little roast. Very little bittering,, if any. Just the smidgenest of hop flavor. All in the lightest bodied beer I’ve had in a while.

However. What ever this beer is named, or however badly miscategorized this beer is.. it is delicious.

The light and delicate roasts and hopping was either an obvious attempt to let the maple come thru, or a genuine lucky miscalculation that widely missed but stayed drinkable.

Now I did say that I talked to one person who said it had some maple character when it was tapped. But sadly I did not get any info as to the rest of the beers characteristics.

At my time of tasting, everything of maple had faded completely and left behind a beer that is very thin and very weak in all flavors.
Those weak flavors do let a minerally tasting aspect thru that I would indeed suspect came from that maple syrup. Because to me it has a light maple sap taste. (Maple sap has zero maple flavor. Tastes more like you soaked maple leaves in water)

I could not get a word from either of the Brewers but how this beer sit right now seem very much like a beer that someone who has used maple syrup for the first time.

I’m just gonna make an educated guess here, and you can ask anyone who has used a larger sized quantity of maple syrup the first time…
but I suspect they got hold of this syrup, took a stout recipe they had, and just scaled the recipe back to compensate for the sugar content.
Doing this would account for the much lower roast, and much lower hopping. Plus the syrup ferments nearly out and with a reduced grain bill, would leave a very thin beer with virtually no maple flavor.

Ok..how to give this a score.
As the Maple American Stout they call it.. it gets a 0/5. There is absolutely nothing Stouty nor Mapley about this beer at all. Not much else can be said about that.

But,, as far as how I like it,, it’s ok. Kinda like a very very light bodied, light everything version of a dark mild??? Maybe a reflection of a light light porter?
It’s not a bad beer at all.. just not whats advertised. But I do kinda like it.. so my Untappd score is going to be a 2.5/5

But make no mistake. If I had bought this in the store because of that description, I would NOT be happy about it.

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